woman in US who had 8 babies recently (seeking debate)

I'm curious to know what everyone's opinions are on the US mother who had 8 babies by IVF and already had 6 children, which were 3 sets of twins also through IVF.

She is a single woman 😲 living at home with her parents in a 3 bedroom house... I saw a bit of an interview with her on a US morning news program.... I think it's absurd to be honest, what does a single mother need with all those young babies when she's not even on her own independently???? with that said, I'm not in her shoes so I guess I shouldn't be so quick to judge but it is the way I feel about it.

What do you guys thing about this?? (healthy debate with opposing opinions welcome, keep it cool though 😉

Well, i'm not sure this is going to start the debate off very well but i agree with you Tam. I don't know the full extent of things but from what i heard she worked in a fertility clinic of some sorts so i am assuming she managed to get a colleague to implant her with these embryo's (i believe all the children have the same donor father?) I am saddened tbh that this woman still did not feel as though she had a fullfilled enough life with 6 children already calling her mum, that she felt she needed another baby. I think she sounds like quite a selfish lady imo, i mean where was the consideration for the children who are already here? Even if she had only conceived one more baby, does this family need another mouth to feed when they are already living and relying on relatives to help raise them? Plus what if something had happened to their mother while she was carrying all these babies in an extremely risky pregnancy? I realise some women have an uncontrollable urge to procreate and make baby after baby but there does have to be a limit. The doctor/person (not sure on american medical terminology) who implanted her with all these embryo's needs a good talking too (to be polite).
Perhaps i am being unfair, i am not saying she is not a good mother to the children she already has but to give birth to 8 more just seems like complete an utter madness to me, especially in her situation Xx

More agreement here. I don't think she should have been allowed IVF if she is single and already had 6 kids. I would assume that she is unable to or doesn't work having that many kids to look after so how does she support them?
I think life in general is tough for single parent families, but frequently these situations arise due to a break down of a relationship. This one seems to be different and in my opinion is wrong.
I have similar feelings about the number of women and young girls that are in new relationships and don't take sensible precautions to prevent pregnancy and then find themselves single and pregnant with no way to support a child. I know it isn't always their fault but they have a hand in it. My ex knows a girl living on her own with 4 kids already and is pregnant again. She uses no protection and declared that she was in love and wanted kids with her new boyfriend within weeks of meeting him. He lives with his parents and she lives off the state. A situation that makes me very angry that this is how my taxes are being spent.
Whereas my friend who is married and both him and his wife work are struggling to have a child. They tried IVF got pregnant but then she lost it about 3 months in. Now, due to the regional aspects of the NHS, they have been told they have to pay for future IVF treatment.

I don't agree with fertility treatments anyway, people like this woman confirm my beliefs even more.

In agreement with EVERYTHING said above! It is absolutely absurd! No matter how much she really WANTS children this is by far too many.

I know people have large families and they always say that they are so happy and give each child equal love and attention - but i seriously ask myself if that will be true especially in this case as a single mother to 14 😲 .

Why on earth would someone with 6 children NEED another 8? She sure must be superwomanm to be able to divide all of her time, love and attention between these little ones and what sort of example is she setting for their future?

I cannot begin to think that anyone would also thnk this a 'great oppurtunity' or good idea in the first place to help with the treatment. 😬

I also agree with all thats been said. I honestly can't see that if she has 6 children already, she needs more! Most families who are both working can barely afford 2 or 3 kids these days 😲

I also know of someone who has 4 children by 3 different fathers who lives off the state and has done so since she had her first at 17. I'm another person who has no objection to people claiming benefit for them and their kids if they happen to end up in a bad situation not of their making - but leaving school saying she'll have kids and the council can house and look after her is appalling and makes me very angry 😛

I heard on the news this woman was going to breastfeed the 8 babies...how??? 😉 Has she got octopus breasts? 🙃

I have followed this story with interest too. The news yesterday showed an interview with the woman's mother (who looks after the 6 previous children) as well as an interview with the mum herself- who seems very naive. They ask her how she will provide for the 14 children and she was like "I'll feed them the best that I can, God will find a way" or something to that effect. They asked her too if this was too raise money and she said "money is just paper"- true but this whole thing starts to sound like a publicity stunt. She will probably have free nappies/formula milk/other essentials from big name companies, but while it started as a heart-warming story of these beautiful octuplets born well and thriving it is quickly turning into shock that not only the mother but the fertility clinic can be SO irresponsible!

Having a regular size family is hard in all ways- emotionally, mentally, physically as well as financially... how on earth does she expect to cope with 14! Her mum looked exhausted, it seems like all the mother of the babies cares about is making herself happy. I don't mean that to sound harsh as she clearly has an obsession that she personally can't control but the professionals should have offered her counselling.

There needs to be proper 'vetting' (if that's the word?) for fertility treatment candidates- and a limit to how many embryos they are allowed to have implanted.

Every baby has the right to have loving parents, whatever their background- but the reality is they need more than just cuddles.

Lou x

i agree with what has already been said. i think its so wrong and i cant believe they let her have ivf. im taking she didnt pay?

Is it also true that she was given treatment in secret 0 ie by a friend / colleague and didn't go through the correct channels in order to recieve treatment.

I'm sure no doctor etc would of agreed to implant a further possible 8 lives?

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I heard on the news this woman was going to breastfeed the 8 babies...how??? :Blink: Has she got octopus breasts?

 LMAO!!!!

I don't think there's anything wrong with having a big family...BUT I feel that there should be some questions as to why she was allowed to be implanted with 8 embryos after successfully managed 3 other twin pregnancies.
I heard that her own mother has said that she is obsessed with having babies 🤔

How was this treatment funded? Has the woman thought of how her parents will cope with 14 children in their home? This lady is sounding a very selfish person to me.

I hadnt realised her other 6 kids were 3 sets of twins. I heard she had 1 set and 4 other pregnancies.

I think the whole thing is disgusting. Im not even going to get started on it but agree with what has been said by most (and have my own thoughts)

I also don't IVF should be used if someone has had a 'normal' conception before and if you have had IVF successfuuly once before you shouldnt get any more. So many people want children and there are hundreds our there witho0ut families. ANd IVF is so expensive so if you decide thaa is the route for you then once is all you should get, so many people are waiting for it and it is si expensive so if someone has had it and it has worked then lucky them. and likewise if you have concieved naturally before then you are veyr lucky. (does that make sense?)

i think if i heard correctly the other children were from fertility treatment 2. also think the mother said she wanted lots of kids because she had a troubled childhood. the medic who gave her the treatment for the 8 is now bein investigated.

I agree with everything that has been said - I heard about the 6 other children shortly after. 😉

Although I agree with almost everything that has been said I think it is easy for us to judge the woman in question where we perhaps should be judging the poor decisions made by the fertility treatment place.

My opinion on the woman in question is that she obviously has some need that perhaps would have been better addressed in counselling than at a fertility clinic. It is easy to call her selfish (and I would say that she does appear to be so) but as we don't know her frame of mind, background, mental state etc it is perhaps too easy a judgement to make.

I think the fertility clinic were negligent in emplating so many embrios. I thought the 'best pactice' now was for less in order to protect the mother and the babies. It seems to me that there was some selfishness on the part of the medical team here to be seen as heros or trailblzers or something. A very carless, unethical and negligent way to behave in my mind.

As for the fact that the women in question lives with her parents. It is down to them to have made her stand on her own two feet if they wanted her to. I can only assume that that are happy with the situation because she has got the funding from somewhere.

Anyway - that's my rant over.

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I just hope these poor children dont end up paying dearly for one persons desire to keep multiplying.I know its possible to love how ever many children be it 1 or 10 but children need more than just 5 minutes a day with their mummy and i dont care what she or anyone else says but money is and will be an issue they cant live of prayer air and love alone 🤔 they must be getting funds from somewhere.
I just saw on E entertainment that she(the mum) has had surgery to look like Angelina Jolie(they showed before and after shots) and OMG she looks very similar 😲 ."copycat maybe????"She has a website where you can view pic's of her family 😲 and make a donation towards their future!!(shouldnt she have thought about that before???)...

On another note a big 😠 to the doctor apparantly he has been in trouble before for doing something similar and police are NOW investigating "bit late guys" 😬 .

Just about every baby company will be throwing things at her to get her to use their products so the babies will want for nothing...apart from a mother that can give them more than 15 seconds of her time.

I am glad that the fertility clinic is being investigated as they are either up to some very dodgy tricks or employing some very dodgy people. This woman should never have been allowed treatment again, especially after she already had successful treatments.

I just feel that the experience of being a parent is so precious and there are so many people who struggle even with treatment to get the baby they long for. So it seems unfair to make the treatment so readily available to someone who already has fulfilled her ambition of parenthood that many times over.

On a practical level also, how the hell would you cope or live in a conventional way with that many children and so many so young?!?! Somewhere here someone is being exploited, maybe the babies, maybe the mother by the clinic, I just don't know 🤔

When my gp refered us to the IVF clinic after two years of natural methods the ivf clinic were still advising us to try naturaly as we had successfully gottten pregnant on our own 4 years earlier.They advised us that we would need two sessions of councelling and information on what we would be going through and to be honest it all sounded a bit daunting and it is a very long process.As it happen two days after i found out i was pregnant i got my appointment for the clinic and thankfully we didnt have to go.
Soooooooo after all that im still shocked that she so easily got impregnated with 8 when she is a fertile woman with 6 children already.?????????
(IVF told us because of our age and good health they would only implant 1 embryo at a time???)

I'm starting to think it's all been a ploy to make money to be honest... she's already being offered a tv show?? rumor has it anyway 🤔

saw some more of her interview earlier on the news... this woman needs serious counseling if it's not a ploy because she is really seeking to fill some void that I don't think ever will... she's bizarre 😉

I can't believe she has the nerve to ask people for donations!! I'd love to send her a message on her web page saying I need all my money for my own kids!

What a flippin' cheek! 😠

Lou x